ANimouz (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@SilentEagles F/A-XX isn't even on drawing board and you talk like it's already opperational.

edennor (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Lol, everything is so wrong. Maneuverability wise F22 =/= Su-37's, Su-35, Su PAK-FA.Everyone even idiots know SU planes are the most agile planes in the world, none can compare to them.Also in the fights will be no F-22s because they are crap, this is what US goverment thinks, if they were not US gov. wouldn't abandon this whole project.Just watch this: watch?v=27qdB1D0s9M&feature=relatedSad but true.Think about it if F-22 was the best plane in the world why US gov would cancel it?

mrjimbeam2009 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

its better than the eurofighter for sure

vkevo (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

compared to the f16 block 52 + and f35, the radar has su35bm maximum range for disclosure fighter 350 km as opposed to 210 km of f16 and f35. missiles in the bm has a range of 175 km while the f16 and f35, the AIM-120c is 48 km and has acted radar scan l-band, which can lock a stealth plane because the f35 is designed to hide from band x, not less from this (l band) Forget it. this airplane is stealth killer

1990PatMorrison (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@Bibazavr majority of engagements are BVR

Bibazavr (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@1990PatMorrison Remember we are talking about a fair fight with radar planes and shit. So the IR signature will not play shit in this fight. And maneuverability wise F22= Su-37's, Su-35, Su PAK-FA's bitch.

SukhoiSu47 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

@1990PatMorrison And what does that have to do with anything?

1990PatMorrison (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Now lets compare the Su-35BM to the F-15SE. The F-15SE has a frontal RCS of .001 m^2 (same as F-35) the Su-35BM could track that 30km away while the SE can engage it 48km away. Try besting our 4th generation fighters before challenging our 5th

1990PatMorrison (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

This may seem to give the PAK FA the advantage BUT the F-22 that would at least quarter the IR Signature reducing the detection range to 1/2 so between 20-25 KM (well within the F-22's detection and engagement range of the PAK FA). Bottom line Su-37+Su-35BM+Su PAk-FA=Raptor's Bitch

1990PatMorrison (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

as for the PAK FA there are many estimates of it's RCS. Pre maiden flight estimates put it at .01 m^2 (since it first flew some go as high as .5 m^2) but because I'm in a good mood I'll give you your .01. The F-22 can track that at 35km. Now you may say what of it's IR detection system? well your most advanced IR signature well you're most advanced detection systems could track a frontal non-after burning jet from the frontal aspects 45 km away.1990PatMorrison 1 second ago